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Jefferson H Clay
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Posted - 2011.05.31 02:15:00 -
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 Originally by: Miilla
Edited by: Miilla on 30/05/2011 19:38:32
Has CCP considered the concept of releasing the patches to a download cache on our machines the DAY BEFORE it GOES LIVE?
Frontloading can work and work very well. The patch comes out several days before lauch and is streamed to the clients and placed in to a holding area. As more QA work is done smaller updates are also pushed out so when the trigger is sent the big patch + fixes all unpacks and sorts itself out.
In theory.
Or your left downloading the full client again because your ISP thought packets should go in circles for a bit and random *******s was the order of the day.
It can work but you need to put in a ton of error handling code before you think about sending it in to the wild. You also need to make sure the package you brought from places like Akiami covers doing that.
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Jefferson H Clay
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Posted - 2011.05.31 15:55:00 -
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Originally by: Lee Anderson
i have already stated that it is also used as a server for the house, now i would suggest you get a better paying job so that you can afford toys like mine or if your married and have kids well your ****ed and the door to your life is  way.
By way of comparison. My household server is a dual core Celeron (2.6Ghz) with 2GB ram, 4x2TB drives in a RAID10, 750Gb 'time machine' disk for stuff not worthy of the disk array and an 80Gb boot drive (smallest I could find). It's stuffed full of TV tuners, a NIC and runs MythTV. It can transcode an hour long MKV in to M4V (AppleTV frontends) inside 20min via HandBrake. It sits under the stairs, runs headless and is ignored for months.
What the hell are you doing, in your own home, that requires such OpenGL grunt from what is going to be a headless server? Serious question that one btw.
Also just how dangerously fast do the figures on your elecy meter go up?
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Jefferson H Clay
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Posted - 2011.05.31 16:00:00 -
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Originally by: Blaze Stigma
got a question maybe some of your smart users out there can tell me if my GeForce GT 240 can handle the CarbonUI ?
Yep, should have no trouble. I'd make sure the latest drivers are installed but I guess that's a given.
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Jefferson H Clay
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Posted - 2011.05.31 16:03:00 -
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Originally by: Abstraction Galt
I'm new to this game and I was wondering how you update the client. Will there be a patch on this site that i have to download and apply, or will the client handle itself once the servers come back up.
Once the cluster is back up the client will jump up and let you know there is a patch avaliable. Let it download and follow the instructions it provides. You might need to close & reopen the client for it to notify you of the patch once the system is live again.
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Jefferson H Clay
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Posted - 2011.05.31 16:07:00 -
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Originally by: Blaze Stigma
Originally by: Jefferson H Clay
Originally by: Blaze Stigma
got a question maybe some of your smart users out there can tell me if my GeForce GT 240 can handle the CarbonUI ?
Yep, should have no trouble. I'd make sure the latest drivers are installed but I guess that's a given.
if your sure then thank you if not
A 265 (I think) runs EVE loverly, gets reasonable frame rates on Duality and such. It's the same generation as the GT 240 just a shade more powerful/more RAM/whatever. So yeah, latest drivers to cover yourself and you're golden.
Now me with my 9400M powered laptop? I'm going to feel the pain. :(
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Jefferson H Clay
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Posted - 2011.05.31 16:18:00 -
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Originally by: amarr alt2
Originally by: markie1994
i coulda put the patch in the server on my own in less than an hour -_- and theyve had practice they put it on test server first
Yes, Home servers give you invaluable market experience in supporting a MMO server environment.
6 - 7 hours for this is rather long. Tivoli Storage Manager should of been streaming the snapshot to the tape library, which takes all of 30min to give a headstart. After that it's just unpacking the new binaries you've already sent to the SAN and going from there.
A few scripts to sync up all nodes in the cluster with the right software revision and you should be done.
I've seen bigger patches hit bigger nastier and more complex clusters than TQ and take less time to complete or rollback. What my dinky home server has to do with my AIX experience I'm not quite sure.
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Jefferson H Clay
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Posted - 2011.05.31 16:28:00 -
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Originally by: Solstice Project
You ppl must have so sucky lifes it's just hilarious ! :D
Go on, please ! :D
Dude, I love you an everything but will you stop bouncing that dev box up and down? It's spazing out the monitoring. KTHXBAI.
Yes, I am bored, yes I am an Op in a NOC. And no, that message probably wasn't for you.
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Jefferson H Clay
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Posted - 2011.05.31 17:10:00 -
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Originally by: Delta Jax
Originally by: Kerppe Krulli
The problem is being optimistic in their ability to patch anything. They should say the server will be down 24 hrs and when they get it up in 18 hrs everyone will praise them for a job well done.
In the IT World,this is called demand management.
I suppose CCP has never heard of ITIL
That and any decent change plan has a backout. If you get to that point and you're still not done you begin backing out the change, go back to planning and reshedule it for another time.
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Jefferson H Clay
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Posted - 2011.05.31 17:20:00 -
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Originally by: Terrante
Originally by: Katrina Cortez
Originally by: Gellan Alabel
Seriously, it like suing McDonalds cuz you did not know coffee was HOT. ;o)
She won that lawsuit...
Only in America
She'd have won in most other countries as well. The coffee is expected to be hot. It is not expected or anticipated that the coffee will be hot enough to cause 3rd degree burns in a few seconds of exposure.
Worth considering where, exactly the burns were in this case. Guy's look down at your little friend. Imagine it with all 3 layers of skin peeling off. How much would THAT hurt?
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Jefferson H Clay
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Posted - 2011.05.31 17:30:00 -
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Originally by: Kerppe Krulli
It was more than just hot, it was industrial grade scolding hot. McDonalds was told to reduce the temp of coffee 3 times due to serious burns prior to this incident and they actually made it hotter. This stuff was hot enough for the worst burns in under .5 seconds and was not safe for any sort of human consumption.
Also the lid was not properly placed on the cup to keep the coffee contained. This case has multiple incidences of neglect on the part of McDonald's. What isn't reported is the damages were reduced later on on a settlement in the case.
Whilst nobody can prove it either way, the general concensus is that McD's were microwaving the coffee to reheat it if it had been left standing in the pot for too long. Microwaving liquids can cause bubbles of super heated gas to form contained by the pressure. It's the reason your microwave has a turn table, it avoids this problem. But once you disturb the liquid the bubbles in the liquid all their trapped heat is released and the liquid explodes. In essence the now 100+ degree C liquid spills itself.
But yes McD's have been fined and warned several times about this. This womans case has stayed in peoples minds because of where the burns were and is often used, wrongly, as an example of the publics stupidity.
The compensation was indeed downgraded at a later hearing.
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Jefferson H Clay
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Posted - 2011.05.31 17:33:00 -
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Originally by: Jita Rich
Edited by: Jita Rich on 31/05/2011 17:30:35
Originally by: CCP Zymurgist
Downtime has been extended to 18:30 UTC due to issues we have discovered with starbases. We are currently reviewing the fixes before opening Tranquility to the players.
does this mean ccp read the flogging a dead horse thread!?
No. It means that POS guns were blazing away on blues, their own tower, other modules or indeed had grown thrusters and started exploring the solar system.
Much like normal.
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Jefferson H Clay
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Posted - 2011.05.31 17:36:00 -
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Originally by: LordElfa
Well, I sort of agree. I mean anyone who put's a beverage in their lap between their legs deserves everything they get. That's why they made cup holders in cars, it wasn't just for spare change.
Dude. All the skin on your meat & two veg just melted. That's way hotter than you'd expect a cup of coffee to be right?
meat & two veg. melted skin. You can stop whimpering now.
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Jefferson H Clay
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Posted - 2011.05.31 17:44:00 -
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Originally by: LordElfa
Dude, don't put your cup between your legs for two reasons, first, if it's cold, your junk get's cold and your beverage get's warm. Second, if your beverage is hot, the possibility of spillage and melted wedding tackle abounds.
100dC will take several seconds to do any major damage, like 3rd or 2nd degree burns. Not enough time to dry off but enough to get your trousers off right?
.5 of a second to get a 3rd degree burn is... rather quick. In some respects if she'd have held it in her hand or it'd exploded on her face the damage would of been much worse than no-skin-vajayjay.
In that container and at that tempreture even moving it from the window to the cup holder would be dangerous.
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Jefferson H Clay
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Posted - 2011.05.31 18:28:00 -
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Originally by: Lariel Butte
Has anyone ever noticed how the posted-timestamps here in the forums include seconds but don't actually use them? :D
I've been playing this game for 5 years and you know something? I never noticed that until you pointed it out. WTF?
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